i need to send a Grandfather clock to Brooklyn New York,please can you help?

Question posted by andrew spalton

Grandfather clock 8ft x 2ft 3ins has been left to my daughter in New York i need to transfer it from Derby

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Dear Andrew

Would it need packing ?
Is it an Antique ?
Shipment by air or sea ?
You can reply directly if you like on email colin.crown@ntlworld.com
or tel 01263 513127
Best regards

Colin ; Crown frt

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Mike Josypenko, on behalf of The Institute of Export in PE2.

Dear Andrew,

You don't mention anything in youtr posting about age or value - goods which are considered as antiques or articles of cultural importance may require an export licence. To check on this, go to: http://www.artscouncil.org.uk/what-we-do/supporting-museums/cultural-property/export-controls/export-licensing/ .

When you ship the goods, you need to ensure that it is adequately and securely packed, to withstand the rigours of an international journey. A specfialist export packer should be able to help you; although if the piece is very fragile, old and / or valuable, you may wish to get this done by a specialist antiques packer. You may wish to consult the Association of Antique and Art Dealers, LAPADA, who may be able to recommend a specialist antiques packer and / or shipping company. You should also be sure to insure the goods while in transit, as freight companies, airlines and shipping lines will not normally insure goods.

The freight company should also be able to advise you on what documents you need to supply, a well as price & delivery times.

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Glyn Windsor, on behalf of Transatlantic Shipping Ltd in NG16.

Good Afternoon Andrew,
It is a pretty straightforward shipment. The clock must be well packed for export. I would advise you to ship by sea if it isn't time critical. Sailings are weekly with a 9-11 day transit to Port New York. Oncarraige to door Brooklyn can be arranged but she may prefer to collect.
If you want to contact Glyn on glyn.windsor@transatlantic-shipping.co.uk she can advise you regarding charges and US Customs requirements.
Regards
Glyn Windsor
DD 01773 770050

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Mike Josypenko, on behalf of The Institute of Export in PE2.

Dear Andrew,

Without wishing to contradict either of previous respondants, it should be pointed out that shipment by sea will normally involve a higher degree of movement in transit compared to transport by airfreight. Correct export packing should normally protect against this, but if the piece is expensive or rare, or has delicate internal movement, you might want to consider transport by air instead of sea - although the transport cost will be higher, the reduced risk may be worthwhile. If in doubt, get a comparison quote. Whichever mode of transport you opt for, you should ask the packer to ensure that the delicate internal movement are protected & prevented from moving within the body of the clock.

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Glyn Windsor, on behalf of Transatlantic Shipping Ltd in NG16.

Good Afternoon Andrew,
It is certainly true that transit by sea is considerably longer time wise than by Air freight. However sea freight is a very safe and secure means of transporting goods that are packaged correctly. With clocks most antique packers will advise their recommendations for packing. They would ensure that all parts are secured before any movement.
It is always advisable to compare sea and air freight rates and transit times. Insurance would be strongly recommended and most freight forwarders would be able to provide you with a quote for whatever cover you required.

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Hello Andrew,
Regardless of the age of the clock the internal movement will need to be secured against movement whilst in transit. The weights will need to be removed.

At 8ft high the item is too tall to be transported standing up either by air or sea - particularly as it will be considerably taller once crated - a wooden crate is advisable. Whilst there are specialist transport methods for over height items they are less frequently available and much more expensive than standard transport options. If the movement is removed the case can then lay down (horizontal) during transport without harm.

There are specialist packers available in the UK and some freight agents have specialist packing divisions - I have used a company called 'Allport Cargo Services' for the transport of all types of clocks before and their packing is very good. They offer sea or air transport. They can also arrange delivery and installation, including removal of the crate and other packing materials at destination.
My contact there is Chris Taylor (email chris.taylor@uk.allportcargoservices.com).

The age of the clock matters as it changes the documentation that is required for the import.
If it is an antique (over 100 years old) it should be zero rated for import duty. If it is under 50 years old duty will be payable. There is no import equivalent of VAT into New York.

The composition of the clock is important as some materials are controlled. If the face/dial of the clock or any part of the case is inlaid with precious woods, mahogany, stones or ivory CITES permits will be required. You need to know the species of the materials if at all possible.

For an antique you could obtain an estimate of value from a reputable auction house.

If you would like to discuss this further please do not hesitate to contact me.

Regards,
Susan
enquiries@morley-consulting.co.uk
www.morley-consulting.co.uk

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